OK, so what exactly is a suitable basis for a claim of legitimate ownership over land?
And how far back do we have to go to find the legitimate owners (druidic Celts in Britain? Canaanites is Israel? Mayans in Central America?)
]]>Those will be melted down for scrap by the Meth Addicts. (Arkansas Trailer Park here....)
Try Marble or Granite.
Also, for more weirdness, check out the Wikipedia on the "Georgia Guidestones"
]]>re:222. Just dwell for a second on the incredibly wasteful stupidity of that idea.
I gather most valuable resources are buried, generally speaking. Besides, I did observe it was an evil idea. But not sufficiently evil to, but maybe not too much, of a long shot, to not entirely eschew.
Funny if our evolutionary successors melted down our knowledge for the metal it was engraved on.
]]>Obvious answer; we haven't looked very far in either time or space, I mean at this point we've seen a bit of our own system and we can just barely infer that other systems have planets.
Other possibilities; interstellar travel isn't possible, for either physical or economic reasons and/or large scale long lasting engineering isn't possible which again could be either economic or physical limitations.
Alternately, really advanced tech looks exactly like the natural environment (see Karl Schroder on rewilding)
]]>I don't think that's the main problem Israel was founded to solve. The problem was violence directed against Jews, and that problem has a straightforward solution in the form of an Army. And a State for that Army to base out of. (And in modern days, Nuclear Weapons, too).
Hatred, on the other hand, is a vague concept. Notice how a lot of people really hate the USA...
]]>An off-world colony as life boat is the wrong analogy, it's not a life boat, it's where we start building the 2nd cruise ship.
]]>If that's the solution it didn't work, there's still plenty of violence against Jews. Much of it outside Israel where that army and those nuclear weapons don't help at all and the presence of the state is a contributing factor. But also quite a bit in Israel as well more or less continuously since its founding.
]]>That's not quite correct.
]]>Are you sure? If someone went to the Chinese government and proposed to invest a few billion dollars in settlement in the Gobi, do you think they'd refuse?
]]>Truly curious, how does the IDF and nukes help prevent violence directed at Jews outside Israel?
]]>Or just google "Operation Entebbe".
]]>So, was the number of terrorist attacks against non-Israeli Jews reduced after 4th July 1976? I wonder if Leon Klinghoffer would think so? Or any of the victims of anti-Semitic attacks that not infrequently happen in the UK? This is to say that Israeli Nuclear ambiguity or the undoubted skills of the IDF aren't much use up close and personal while walking home from the pub in North London.
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