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  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (2)
    The parliament has to accept a SI changing the exit date. This will pass with a massive majority. Government will whip for it, labour will whip for it, SNP will whip for it, LD will whip for it....
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (2)
    I had been thinking about where I'd seen the "we're going to sabotage you if you don't get rid of us" message before, and it finally came to me. Two election cycles ago, in the europarl elections, the bavaria party...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (2)
    Oh wow, looks like I called it correctly - EU leaders are talking about extension to end of year, and France is requesting a "weighing point" in October where they can tell the UK to fuck off if they're being...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (2)
    The noises coming from the continent are basically "we're glad the adults are finally in the room" (refering to the cross-party talks and EU election commitment) "but that's not going to be enough". The most likely outcome in my opinion...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (2)
    It appears I was wrong and the toryrrist shits (cash and redwood in this case) did put the amendments to a division, as well as attempting to introduce neutering amendmends themselves. As expected, they were defeated by majorities of 396,...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (2)
    The amendments are technical in nature and not in any way substantial - the substantial amendments by torryrist peers were rejected. It's very unlikely anyone will bother putting it to a division, and if they do they will lose heavily...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (2)
    News has just reached me that the cooper bill has passed the lords, and is due royal assent....
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (2)
    Remember the context is riots caused by brexiterrorists after brexit has been stopped (or watered down). I fully agree with you that it would be much much worse in a no deal context, but that's not what we're talking about....
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (2)
    The toryrrists are sending out letters to potential candidates saying they should immediately prepare for the EUparl elections....
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (2)
    Police numbers have indeed fallen dramatically since 2011 but it's entirely implausible in my opinion that the size of any brexiterrorist riots will be even 15% of the size of the 2011 riots....
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (2)
    An important thing to remember about the 2011 riots is that six people died, a handful of non-police were injured, and it was over in five days. And those riots were ENORMOUS compared to what we can expect from a...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (2)
    Also the legal decision about A50 revocation was VERY VERY clear on this point - revocation is unilateral, and possible as long as the UK is still a member state, that is until the very last minute of the A50...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (2)
    I think any riots will be violently suppressed immediately. The numbers are quite small (though they are violent and noisy) compared to say 2011 and given that technically the acts of disruption and sabotage perpetrated by that crowd (eurostar blockade,...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (2)
    The winning move for May (assuming her deal is out of the game) is a long extension that she didn't ask for. This may well be the outcome of the cooper bill process. That way she didn't do it (those...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (2)
    But a childhood of science fiction has led me to understand that cats can walk through walls! (prime ministers, on the other hand, have to either be for turning or not)...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (2)
    As I understand it, Serbia has some reciprocal travel arrangements with the EU, about recognition of ID cards as travel documents and visa exemptions and such. The FCO has not rolled those over to a bilateral agreement (likely because it...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (2)
    So here's an exciting option that's just become available because of the toryrrists filibustering the Cooper bill last night. The committee stage and third reading of that bill got moved to Monday, and May used today to preempt it by...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (1)
    And May has requested an extension until end of June, which has already been rejected by the euco once, and is not enough time to do anything useful. On the plus side, she's also committed to holding EU elections, as...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (1)
    Tusk has PROPOSED a year's extension, terminated automatically if WA passes, contingent on a) UK holding EU elections, b) UK asking for such an extension and c) MS agreeing to this plan. If the WA passes during that period the...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (1)
    Eh? This is a simple thing. Americans get chips from a chipper (except blue chips, which they get from a broker). Brits get chips from a chippie. If neither is available, you go to a machinist, whose entire job is...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (1)
    The debate was not in the main chamber, and very exciting shit was happening in the main chamber. This is why it was mostly ignored. However, it was not especially productive. Basically none of the toryrrists showed up. Here's a...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (1)
    Okay, so something major is happening - tomorrow, instead of the indicative votes process, parliament is intending to try and get legislation through - they will reserve thursday for non-government business, debate all stages of a bill, and THEN hold...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (1)
    Oh and in case anyone missed it, Lidington approved "contingency" funding for european elections and asked returning officers to start making preparations yesterday....
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (1)
    Another important thing Barnier said was that there is nothing that forces the UK to leave the customs union and/or the single market at the same time as leaving the EU. I am not familiar with the legal argument behind...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (1)
    My analysis and prediction based on the current situation - three of the four options will pass the next round. Customs union - will pass easily with TIG or LD support, which I think they can be convinced to give...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (1)
    Rumours have it that the PM might attempt to block any legislation that parliament passes to force her to do something by advising the queen to not give royal assent. Is there any way for parliament to bypass that?...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (1)
    Super simples. Just take the giant blob of rock that's on one side, snap it off and slide it into the gap. Then it can become Moroccan territory and resolve the Gibraltar conflict!...
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (1)
    Government whipped ministers to abstain. DUP voted on several of the motions, always for the more evil alternative....
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (1)
    Also at this point I don't really care what Labour states as policy - it's possible to observe how they whip on important votes - you'll notice they whipped FOR a confirmatory vote, and did not whip against revocation....
  • Commented on The Inevitable Brexit Thread (1)
    You're referring to Barry Gardiner, who is contradicting other senior figures in Labour - see for instance Owen Smith here https://twitter.com/OwenSmith_MP/status/1111049115889213440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw The only sense I get from that is that Labour is split on this - which we already knew....
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