Commented on 2512
Sorry guys but some of the comments on this (excepting our gracious host of course) are so... SHORT SIGHTED that even though it's 1:45 AM here in Vietnam, it drove me to register, sign in and comment. 500 Years is...
scott-sanford commented on
Actually, going back to a pure HG lifestyle would mean major technological developments, especially since most of the historical prey species are long extinct and we'd have to find new ones. Actually, that might be kind of cool. Suppose there's a fad for this in, say, the 23rd century; it could be hundreds of years old by 2512. I don't know how popular nomadic stories of the steppes are in Eurasia, but we've got plenty of retro fantasies about Native American tales over here. I can imagine various tribes moving around the restored American plains, hunting Neo-Beefalo with laminate bows...
Trottelreiner commented on
However, one of the best things for a home survival kit is a bunch of rat traps, because you can get by with eating rats and pigeons, so long as you've already learned how to eat them before the disaster strikes. "Hole food! Hole food! Rat! Rat! Rat-onna-stick! Rat-in-a-bun! Get them while they're dead!" Err, sorry, just got carried away. As for the pigeons, while pigeon pie may not to everyone's taste, at least not to some friends I talked to, they have something of a reputation for being a delicatesse. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squab_(food) For the farming/herding, I wholeheartedly agree on...
Trottelreiner commented on
Actually, I guess a kind of HG lifestyle might be of interest to our techno-nomadists http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technogypsie as a kind of fallback mechanism or point of personal pride, though the Ancient Greek ideas of autonomia makes little economic sense (but then, coming out of the Bronze Age collapse might explain something of a survivalist mindset). Though then, don't get me started on our crusty "you have a (insert local currency here)? my dispo is late..." crowd. Err. BTW, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neotribalism "My use of ancient Sumerian Cuneiform in my photography is to show that prior to current times, ancient and primitive art, was...
heteromeles commented on
Another way to think of hunting and gathering is that, once the high tide line of 9 billion people recedes, there's going to be a tremendous amount of crap lying around, waiting to be reused. The kind of bricolage needed to make all this stuff useful very definitely requires hunting and gathering skills. Just not paleolithic ones. As it is, animal hunting has long been the realm of either the wealthy or the outsiders, and I suspect it will remain that way....
David L commented on
there's going to be a tremendous amount of crap lying around, waiting to be reused. The kind of bricolage needed to make all this stuff useful very definitely requires hunting and gathering skills. Just not paleolithic ones. And it's going to be very messy. I just discovered that the standard plastic gallon milk cartons around here have recently changed their composition. Used motor oil will eat through the current composition. Says he who collects his used oil and taking is to the oil recycling point periodically and now gets to clear up a patch of concrete. Fortunately it's a slow...
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